The big thing in the news yesterday was Obama vs. Cheney in their speeches about national security. More specifically they were directed at the issue the closing of Guantanamo Bay and the use of "enhanced" interrogation techniques. I listened live to a significant portion of both speeches, which were very much in line with previous speeches that I have heard (by Obama and Bush - I had not heard many Cheney speeches in the past).
Obama said this:
"I know some have argued that brutal methods like water-boarding were necessary to keep us safe. I could not disagree more. As Commander-in-Chief, I see the intelligence, I bear responsibility for keeping this country safe, and I reject the assertion that these are the most effective means of interrogation. What's more, they undermine the rule of law. They alienate us in the world. They serve as a recruitment tool for terrorists, and increase the will of our enemies to fight us, while decreasing the will of others to work with America. They risk the lives of our troops by making it less likely that others will surrender to them in battle, and more likely that Americans will be mistreated if they are captured. In short, they did not advance our war and counter-terrorism efforts - they undermined them, and that is why I ended them once and for all."
This makes sense to me, and it is generally the viewpoint to which I subscribe. I am genuinely proud of Obama for this stance. After his speech, I listened to Cheney make his point. There are things that he said that also make sense to me, and I begin to wonder. For me, there is a particular point at which the Bush worldview and Cheney's argument break down. It is when he says this:
"It is much closer to the truth that terrorists hate this country precisely because of the values we profess and seek to live by, not by some alleged failure to do so. Nor are terrorists or those who see them as victims exactly the best judges of America's moral standards, one way or the other."
To me, the whole "war on terror" is based on this idea, that evil men hate us just because they are evil and hate what is good. We, of course, are good, and the "alleged failure" to live up to our messianic self-image is ridiculous. There is nothing we can do to change how these people feel, and our only option is to fight them.
Imagine this in a relationship. One of your buddies is talking about someone, perhaps a coworker that they have a problem. He explains to you, "He hates me simply because I am so virtuous and hard working, and he despises me because of my values, not because of my 'alleged' failures." Or even better yet, imagine it the other way around. Imagine you confront someone about their failures, and he/she simply says you despise them because they are doing such a good job, that your feelings are irrational, and nothing can be done to change them. How would that arrogant attitude make you feel, especially if your accusation was founded?
I cannot accept that people only hate us because we are good, and that it has nothing to do with attitudes that are arrogant, militaristic, or condescending or with policies that are repressive. Perhaps some of these things have turned in to a strong, deadly anti-American sentiment in general - it does not seem like these people have a clear political agenda, but how would we know if we do not ever list to them. Maybe they commit terrorists acts because they hate America, but they don't hate America just because we have freedom.
So, let's say we concede to Cheney the idea that through torture we received valuable information that saved lives (I doubt torture is the most effective way to get reliable information anyway). My question is: Does this really "save lives" if it is contributing to the root causes of the anti-American sentiment that is fueling the terrorist activities in the first place?
More on Gitmo later. . .
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